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News Room
05/12/2008
Thor Hearne Featured on CNN for Election Law Commentary
Below is a partial transcript as the show aired on May 12, 2008. To view the transcript in its entirety, click here.
DOBBS: New efforts tonight to ensure the integrity of our voting system. In the state of Missouri lawmakers there are fighting to require voters to demonstrate proof of citizenship before they can vote, Missouri's efforts being closely watched by states across the entire country. Kitty Pilgrim has our report.
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KITTY PILGRIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): At the state capital this week in Jefferson City, Missouri, a push to get voter ID laws into place as soon as possible.
STANLEY COX (R), MISSOURI STATE LEGISLATURE: When you get to such fundamental things as the right to vote and have everyone's vote count the implication of fraud, of any amount is significant because it diminishes our vote. PILGRIM: The Supreme Court ruled last month that requiring a government-issued photo ID to vote in Indiana was not a burden and did not violate the constitutional rights of voters. More than two dozen states required some kind of ID at the polls, but only seven require photo ID, but now the way is clear to make changes in state laws.
THOR HEARNE, ELECTION LAW ATTORNEY: The objective here is to make it easy to vote but tough to cheat and states like Missouri are looking to that. They're looking to it as they adapt their own provisions.
PILGRIM: The National Conference of State Legislatures says the Supreme Court decision was a turning point for a new push for voter ID and a renewal of the bitter fight against it.
TIM STOREY, NAT'L CONF. OF STATE LEGISLATURES: It's very unlikely that states will take any action before this fall's election, but it will ratchet up the intensity of the debate and will probably boil over yet again.
PILGRIM: The ACLU and some other voter rights' groups argue voter ID laws suppress voting because not everyone has adequate ID.
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PILGRIM: Now Missouri is following the Supreme Court ruling and what it called a reasonable requirement to vote. Now, the Supreme Court ruling found it's in the interest of a state to count only the votes of legitimate voters, that seems pretty basic, Lou.
DOBBS: And the likelihood of this passing in Missouri.
PILGRIM: The referendum they hope to get by August and, if they can, they have to pass a law and it will go in for November, but they're not absolutely sure they can get it done for August.
DOBBS: OK and with this issue on the integrity of our voting system Congresswoman Candace Miller also pushing and pointing out that because -- and this is remarkable -- the Congressional Research Service finding that because of illegal aliens living in California -- California has six more Congressmen in the United States Congress than they should have.
PILGRIM: Yeah.
DOBBS: It's extraordinary and people are seemingly and mainstream news media hasn't got a clue what's going on here and refuses to look at because, apparently, they think it's politically incorrect.
PILGRIM: They think it's politically incorrect and in fact some of the evidence points that people who don't have documents that they say are going to be disenfranchised are actually going to be helped if they are required to have ID because the states actually help them get it. DOBBS: And the number of states who are underrepresented in Congress because of illegal immigration -- I think it is 11 states underrepresented because of illegal immigration, illegal aliens living in other states, one example in California when looking at citizens -- the ratio of citizens in some districts in California to say this entire state of Montana with one Congressperson there are more than twice as many citizens in Montana as there are number of Congressional districts in California.
I mean, it's just insane what is being permitted here. It's just, it's utterly nuts. So it will be Missouri, it is going to be interesting. Actually, have to be a citizen to vote in this country. What a concept. And that would be, of course, a significant burden. Thank you very much, Kitty Pilgrim.
It's also the subject of our poll question tonight. Do you believe all voters should be required to show proof of citizenship before they can vote? Yes or no. Cast your vote at loudobbs.com. We'll have the results here later.
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